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If you were haunted and harassed by your own inner critic, if you've ever been curious about why hypnosis works so well, if you're a seasoned hypnotist, or if you suspect that the inner critic is actually hypnotizing you to hold back from reaching the greatness that you know, deep down is inside you lean in and get inspired to get out of your comfort zone and create your one precious life with purpose and intention. If you like this show, you'll love my powerful hypnosis audio, the answer room, because it gives you crystal clear guidance and direction and illuminates an ingenious way to make triumphant decisions.

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No matter how stuck you feel or how confused you were. This powerful hypnosis audio is my gift to you. When you go to the imposter monster.com again, that's the imposter monster.com. Don't forget the, the, the imposter monster.com. And yes, I'm done saying it. Thank you. Thank you. From the bottom of my heart for listening. I'm Lori Hammond, and I'm truly grateful for you.

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All those things that panic people, what happens if it doesn't work at some point, we have to step over that line. You want to, if you want to build muscle, don't grow. You have to work that muscle to failure because in the moment of failure, it grows and I think is such a great metaphor for ourselves. If we want to grow, we can stay in our comfort zone and be safe and do reasonable work. And when you're wrong, you can do good work. But if you want to grow as a therapist, if you want to grow as a person, you have to work to failure. You have to get to that point where something fails, because in that moment, it's the moment we gain that extra strength.

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We gain extra knowledge.

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Every time I finish a podcast episode, I think that was my favorite episode. And then I recorded another one. And I think that was my favorite episode. I think they're all my favorite, but today's is particularly near and dear to my heart because I'm interviewing one of my dear friends, Freddie Jacquelyn. I feel like Freddy needs no introduction, but just in case you're new to him. He is the author of the book, hypnotherapy methods, techniques, and philosophies. It's an amazing book that I highly recommend reading or ideally listening to on audible because he reads it himself. And you can be hypnotized by the great Freddie Jaquin as you listen.

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Freddie is also the creator of the Aero technique, which has gotten thousands of people, probably tens of thousands of people out of pain around the world using a rapid technique that is so effective. Freddie is also the founder of the world. Quit smoking project, which has been translated

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Into many languages because Freddy has a vision of helping people all around the world. Stop smoking for good in this podcast, you'll hear Freddy reference Victoria, and he's talking about Victoria Gallagher, who was our guests on the second episode of this podcast, it's a powerful interview that has gotten amazing feedback. And I highly recommend you check that one out as well. You can find [email protected] forward slash podcast, that's T R a N C Y pants.com forward slash podcast. There are a couple of visual references in this interview.

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So if you're listening on audio only, you're still going to get massive value. And if you want to see what we're referring to, you can find the video of this [email protected] forward slash podcast. You'll be able to watch Freddie actually demonstrate hypnotic phenomena with me during the interview. And then Freddy gives us a sneak peek behind the scenes of his recording studio, which will provide a really valuable mindset shift. If you're the kind of person who thinks that you have to have a beautiful, perfect space before you can start making a difference for other people, I really believe this interview can be life-changing for you. If you truly listen with an open heart and an open mind and realize, yes, we are talking to you during this interview.

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If you listen to five minutes anywhere in this recording and really apply it to your life, it will change your life. I hope you love this episode as much as I do. I would love to hear your comments. If you enjoy it, have an amazing day. The thing I really want to convey there have been so many people coming to me and really for like two years, people have been coming to me saying, I want to do what you're doing, but.dot dot. And it's always the same thing. They have this voice in their head telling them they need more training. Freddy's going to get mad. If they use his stuff, they don't have what it takes. Just, just all these disempowering beliefs.

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And so more than anything, I want to help people understand that it's okay to take action. That to me, if they've read your book, if they've taken one on Melissa tears, trainings, if they've taken Mike's training, they have everything they need. And now it start it's time to start moving forward. So I'd like to address that. And then I just, anything that comes up, I think that whatever is supposed to surface will. And I say, we go with it.

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Yeah. So we talked about this, but I think it's an absolute point that you're saying you're making this point in time. I even, I have it. I have, I have a Facebook profile, you know, that's what we show to the world. And it's what people have perceived about me. And I've said that all along, you know, when I got to Las Vegas, not the last year, the year before, and my son booked an hour of our presentation on the Sunday evening. And I said, is it worth going for five days? The last space, wherever we want to wait at five days for an hour presentation on the Sunday, I said, no, we're going to know me. You know, it's going to turn up. I'll say, there's going to be worth me going. And we just, we had an arrow product out, I think just before.

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Oh, he said, yeah, we go out, you know, you'll be all right. <inaudible> so I'll win. And all the proof of the week, I'm talking to people in bar and I'm saying, you know, come and see, you know, I'm on a Sunday at six o'clock or whatever it was thinking. I don't want to be in that room on my own at all. You know, I want to say, it's, you know, maybe it's not doing anything, you know, you have, you want to come along thinking I might get two or three people if I talk to enough people. And then I got, got to tell him, and I walked down the sort of the corridor, you know, the big sort of meeting place in the middle of between all the rooms. And I see this massive people at the end of the end of the hall.

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I don't think camera someone really good. Must be. There's a lot of people I thought I wouldn't be flying out with five o'clock. And so they're queuing up down the corridor. So I didn't know that Scott Sandlin was behind me. I didn't know who he was. I don't think at that point. So I'm walking down saying, you know, who's on thinking that if there's some really good on, I'm only got two people, I'm going to go watch his LFOs. And then I says, well, we're waiting for you. And I couldn't believe it. You know, I said, Scott, could we have this party afterwards? And I said, you know, it was just actually, I, he said, but people know who you are, but I had no concept of that. And I still find that a really hard thing to sort of get my head round when people, you know, they're almost like timid.

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So asked me to sign the book. Can I have a picture taken? Because it's not how I see myself at all. So that whole thing you're saying about the imposter syndrome of what we say to ourselves and what we sometimes, and it's not just with our work, but in life in general, we've got to recognize that we look in the mirror and we are going to see everything that's wrong with us. And that's not what other people say, but we are going to see it. And sometimes we have to accept. If enough people say you're good or you're nice, or you're kind, or you're not brilliant at what you do. You, you have to accept it because you are not going to, it's rare that you are going to find, I believe everything that someone someone's saying about me, someone has said only one person, that's saying something bad about you and you'll hold that, that you will grab over them.

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And that will destroy you, but you can have thousands of people telling you that you're great and brilliant, but it's never really what you think about yourself. So I think the same for everyone. It's not just, I don't care who it is. They're gonna, they're gonna suck that imposter syndrome at some point, that little voice going, yeah. You know, you're going to get found out. They're gonna realize that you're not any good.

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That voice talks in all our ear. Can you talk a little bit more about accepting, you know, accepting people's compliments, accepting that we're, we're ready to take action, even though it doesn't feel like it.

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Well, the thing, the whole idea of taking action, you know, you often say to me, you know, you have an idea and you do it. You know, it might be, that's not the best planning something. I'll get excited. And I get passionate. I have a dream, I think, Oh, I'll do that tomorrow. You know, look it up and create something and then put it out online. And before I know it, I've set up some color, some kind of course or something without even thinking it through really. But I think it's, for me, it's just about not being afraid to, to try stuff and fail at stuff. And, and then you can go and do whatever you want to do. It's, it's the thing that holds us all back. And it's that voice? That the one that says, well, what if we mess up or nobody likes it?

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What if this, what if that? And once you get past that, and I think it's more about, it's not, not caring about what people think, but it's not worrying too much about it. You know, not letting that rule your life. I often have people come and see me. And I talk about what I call mind reading. You know, everyone's thinking this at me and they'll be thinking that, and she'll be saying that. And he must be thinking, well, what I've said to a person, I said, are you Darren Brown? I went, no. I said, well, how do you know what people are thinking in reality? But we do it all the time. Well, that'd be thinking this, if I may stop, there'll be thinking that, and that stops us from doing that.

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Once we recognize that voice. And once we recognize and remind ourselves that we'd done, know what people are thinking, then we change our lives. That's my thing. But you like Victoria was saying, you know, we do, we do this stuff. We're helping people all the time. I like to think I'm helping people, assigned people, read my books. They would come to see people did a training with me. And I'm saying to people, you know, you can do this. You know, you could get yourself out of your own way and then you can do what you want to do. And then you find times, like Victoria's saying, you know, she had the 18 months done all that self-development and was teaching other people how to do it.

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And yet she wasn't practicing the stuff herself. She wasn't using the same techniques on herself. And that's a really important point when she said that on that podcast. And my massive, you know, we have to keep doing our own work and keep, keep upgrading our own cells and reminding ourselves that we can do this stuff, not just saying it to other people and helping other people, but reminding ourselves to do the work on ourselves. And I thought it was a really good point.

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Yeah, I really enjoyed. So are you telling me Freddie that all these years you've been doing hypnosis that you haven't arrived yet? Are you still doing the work?

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I'm just hoping I last long enough to arrive at that point is, but, you know, instead of thinking about, you know, arriving, I was just thinking, you've got to enjoy the journey and hope that you never arrive. You know, that this goes on because I've been done it so long, aren't still absolutely fascinated by it. And I'm still passionate about it, you know? And you only know, you know, you've seen how you've helped hundreds of people, thousands of people. So it's Victoria. And so I like to think, but when one person says to you, you know, I pain's gone or I've lost weight, or, you know, thank you or quit smoking or whatever it might be, or I no longer have that fear or anxiety.

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If you, if we were only to help one person in isle, that would be a massive thing today. And the thing about like Victoria, she's written these books and it's the same in my book. And that's one of the reasons I wrote that book. And it was always been a dream of mine. I've written a couple of novels as well, but not to think about the fact that you're, that someone you will never going to me has benefited by the words you've written down. You know, I remember listening years ago to a guy it was years ago and he'd been it. He brought up this little mining village in the Northeast of England.

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So he'd never really gone out of this town. You know, it lived there, but he wrote a song and he sent you off to London and they gave it to a group and it became the number one best-selling song. So they invited this guy down to London and he never been to London before. We've never been on the tube before and on the underground. So you said, he's not, he's in London, he's on this underground ship on this train. And it's only him and one other person on the, on this carriage, he said, and he was whistling my tune. If I had hair, it'd be standing on end because that gets me every time to think, you know, he suddenly realized that his song, people were singing.

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It. People knew that too. And it was the same when I went to Las Vegas to HCL for the first time I got there and obviously other side of the world. So it's a long trip I get there and a man comes up to me ACL. And he said, are you ready? Jacqueline? I said, yeah, he stopped, got your book. He said, not ran. He said, my mum has been in pain for 20 years. And I ran your arrow technique with her and she's out, honey. You know, it's phenomenal, isn't it? You know, to think that's just one, man, I'll get emotional thinking about it. But you know that book's been selling worldwide and people love it, which I'm really pleased about. But they're also using the techniques, a guy today.

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And I was telling you earlier that I've been doing these 15 minute consultations, free consultations, which I'm offering people is coming, you know, speak to, if I can help you, I'll help. Yeah. Books and appointments together. But the last one stay, it may disappoint for his wife, but his wife never showed up. And he looked like he made me a mechanic. Yeah, it overrules on. But he was going on about my book. And I said to him, I said, I've written that book so people can learn how to do hypnosis and do this work. I said, why don't you just run? Listen, my book enough time, they, you know, he was raving about, I said, do it with her. You know, that's the whole point of that book. It's not that you read the book.

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And then you book the appointment with me. The whole point is that you could pick that book up. That's why I've written it. And that way you can pick that book up, learn simple induction and then run one of those techniques, which is not wordy know. I'd love to think in some ways that she doesn't book with me, but I get a message saying, you know, I spoke to my husband and he's, I don't need you because my husband's. So I was got the pain, but you know, that's the joy of what we do. And it it's touched a lot, what you do, what Victoria does, you know, ship her book. It's going to people she's never going to meet who are being inspired and they're change their lives because of it. And sometimes we have to remind ourselves of that.

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Now when our, in our darkest moments and we all have them at times, you know, the thing that those people, it's a ripple effect. You're dropping a pebble somewhere and it's rippling out. And when, when we work with anything, whether it's weight, loss or smoking, which people kind of in this, some people in this therapy world go, Oh, I wouldn't smoke. I don't do smoke so common. You know, you change one person's life that a smoking that's going to affect their family. That was probably going to affect the generation after. Cause the chances are, if the father's not smoking, the mother's not smoking. The kids aren't going to smoke. And so it ripples out and sometimes we can get a bit blahzay about what we do because to some extent, it's is something anyone can learn to do.

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And you've seen me work. And I'm saying to people that these techniques are simple. I don't want everyone to learn how to do it. The problem is in, in our hypnotherapy world, if you'd like, if everyone can do this and I I'll, I'll put my hand on my arm. And I reckon someone who wants to learn it, I could take someone off the street. Who's never done hypnosis before I got to work with him for a day by lunchtime. It'd be that they're competent hypnotist. And by the evening they better help people out pain, fear, and probably habits. And I know I can do that in 24 hours. And it's a big thing to say, but I know the techniques I teach is simple.

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And I want everyone to learn how to do it. But the problem with that is if everyone can learn how to do it, where's the kudos and being a hypnotherapist. If it's complex, if it sounds complex, if it is, if I make a conflict, Oh, I spoke to a woman the other day, she's on a three-year hypnotherapy. Cool. Some years ago, I was traveling to Paul where I live now, where I live, the other side of the hall and a woman phoned me and said, could you come and see me? What is it? She was in Lincoln. So it was on my way out. So I stopped to help her. And I did submit analysis for that. And it was lunchtime. He says, you want a cup of tea for you? Go travel. And I said, yeah.

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So we're sitting down in a cup of tea together. This woman's daughter came in and she said, Oh, I'm doing a hypnotherapy course at Nottingham university. I said, that's great. She said, I'll say that I'll give me date said three months. I said, well, how many people you hit the size? So I'm an appetizer. Anyone yet? We haven't got to that yet. I said, how many times you've been advertised some being advertised yet three months since this course I saw, I said, well, can I borrow your arm, lifted her arm up and hypnotized her across the table. So, you know, she's sitting there, can't move around. She's looking at me, eyes open. I said, now you're hypnotized. And it blew everything. She'd been learning out the window.

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When we realized that this is something that's happening all the time. Anyway, when I was in India last year, running some courses at my science, one of the guys in India, he said, where are you? The being hypnotized, we're hypnotizing or in hypnosis. And it's true. You know, everyone needs in, once we recognize we're in trance, albeit some of the negative trances, which is what we're talking about with the imposter monster, where we've got this voice and I have going, can't do it, can't do it. You know, you'll never make it. You know, what's the point who cares all those, those little phrases that go on in our head, once we recognize that it's not even our voice. Once you recognize that most, if not, all of our limitations are being suggested by someone else.

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And when you is that, and then you think, well, okay, well I only ever someone else's opinion, it was never real. And then we can decide what we want to think and how we want to feel. That's how I just see this is so simple. Now, what if I believe something else? What is the belief I have about myself? I could say, I could recognize it for what it was. It was only ever a belief. It was only probably someone else's belief, nevermind. And I can change it. I can decide to believe something else. And I honestly believe all of human change can be done online.

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One of the things that one of my I've been using a lot, but it's maybe, maybe in the last year or so that the East, the suggestion, you know, you know, I do a lot of phenomena. You know, where I, I stick people's hands together. It's not a funnel of a reason other than give people an experience of hypnosis. It's not for anything else, but I want my client going out of my room, knowing they've had an experience with it. Gnosis possibly for five first 5,000 people I saw I was doing what we now call, relax the therapy, you know, relax, relax. They'd be sitting in the chair thinking if I have my eyes, Oh no, I'm not hitting the Tice.

3 (21m 17s):
I don't want to embarrass him. So that'd be sitting there thinking, I, you know, I think I met, I'll be sitting in a chair thinking if I move, they're going to wake up. You're not going to be both. Be sitting there like that. Then you realize that nothing to do with sleep or anything else. And once you realize that, but I did that for years. So it wasn't. So I started introducing the phenomena because you can go to counseling. You can go to, you know, all these other talking therapies. And if someone comes see you as a therapist and all you're going to do is talk to them, albeit with their eyes closed, they're thinking it's just another thought talking therapy. But if in the first few minutes you find that excuse or reason to demonstrate some phenomena.

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I can't pull my eyes apart. Then all of a sudden their expectation expectations, much greater. So always use phenomena in, in the therapy room. And it's I say, it's for that reason to demonstrate that, but people won't do it because they're afraid. What if it fails? Then I've lost this client. You know, if I do it and they're like, Oh, well he didn't, it didn't work. You know, what's the point of that. But you've got to my belief, we as him therapies, you see me present. And the difference between my presenting and a lot of other people who present is I say, if you want to be free of pain, come up, I don't test them. I just say, come up. I might have 30 people on stage and I'm going to do some phenomenal with them.

3 (22m 41s):
And that's what people I want them to have that wow. You know, that fascination, which we should all have when we, when we're working with hypnosis, because it's fascinating.

2 (22m 51s):
I just interviewed Melissa tears a couple of days ago. And her key points were that it's easier than you. It's simple. Once you just understand how simple it can be. And I think that's the hardest thing to convey to our clients. And I think that's the hardest thing for us to accept as hypnotists is that it really can be this simple. And then the other thing you talked about was just being in this state of wonder and curiosity and, and always learning and exploring. And I think that's one of the most powerful States we can be in. So you mentioned a moment ago that sometimes, you know, when you're telling people, you need to employ phenomenon during your sessions, you know, these convincers to help them realize something happened.

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What would you say to that person who says, well, what if it fails? What if I can't really do that? Who, who aren't really sure that they totally believe in this stuff.

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People doing great work without using phenomena. I'm not saying everyone should use it. I'm saying

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That I think it would improve their results if they use it. Because, you know, I want my clients go out of that room with an undeniable experience of it. Gnosis, you know,

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I can't go, well, I've done a lot. Was hypnotized. If they're sitting in a chair like this, come calm

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Because people it's just human nature people. And I said, first 5,000 people would have been relaxed to therapy. You know, as we, as I now call it, which is maybe a little bit harsh, but you know, I was, I noticed that as I was still a script artist and, and I was doing that, you know,

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All I knew when I first started, I could

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Do by row was okay. You're ready to be hypnotized. Yes. Okay. Take a breath and close your eyes. Please challenge in your legs, place your legs on feet on the floor and allow your eyes to close and then close your eyes. And then that will come more script. That's right with your eyes closed

3 (24m 48s):
Know I was scared to put my book down. Well, if I forgot my words or whatever, and I think a lot of people start,

1 (24m 54s):
I think has got to be scripted and it's not, don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with scripts to get you Stein, providing you feel what you're reading and you're passionate about it. If you're reading it as if it's a spell, all I've got to do is read these words. That's not the right way to go about it. So I always say that people practice

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On the people you care about. If you're going to do phenomena, you know, if someone at a party,

1 (25m 18s):
So you're a hypnotist, could you have a science play? They say, well, yeah, but you don't have to be in my room with some well music playing enough. I'll throw a blanket over you, get you relaxed first say, yeah, of course I can. Are you ready to be emphasized? And then do some phenomena, Shaun something, because in those situations you'll fail. You know, they're not paying for that experience. So, and then you can get, once you've done it a few times and you know, it's going to happen. I want you failed a few times, which is even more important and realize that you said the other day, no one died. I mean, Whoa, you know, suddenly went, boom. I'm not yet size. Okay. Well move on. Because you know, it's not as if someone's died. And so you've just got to be brave about this.

1 (26m 1s):
And people are going to want to prove you wrong, but you just move past it because the people you're going to affect in a big way, far outweigh the one person. Cause I used to say to people, in fact, I had a guy come to see me once to quit smoking. And he said, I said,

3 (26m 19s):
What are your reasons for wanting to quit smoking? No first thing you did when he walked in, he said, this is going to be okay.

1 (26m 25s):
So I said to Australia, I said, there's going to be a challenge. I'm going to lose. Cause I'm here to challenge it. You know, anyone can challenge me. Anyone can go. I'm not going to be hypnotized. And it, unless I sneak up on them. And

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Then, but in that situation, someone

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Can, can resist that and go, Oh, I'm not gonna listen to you. Not gonna do it, which is fine. But as I said to that guy, I'm not here to challenge you. I'm here to help you. And this is a collaboration. It's not me doing something to you. It's us working together to help you achieve what you want to achieve. But all of those things that panic people, what happens if it doesn't work. At some point, we have to step over that line. You know, as you know, you can see I'm I, you know, I work out and you mentioned the guy the other day. I think it's Tim Ferris. You've written a couple of books. You solving a great one is the four hour body and one's four hour work week.

1 (27m 22s):
And what he says is if you want to, if you want to build muscle grow muscle, you have to work that muscle to failure because in the moment of failure, it grows. And I think it's such a great metaphor for ourselves. If we want to grow, we can stay in our comfort zone and be safe and do reasonable work. I mean wrong. You can do good work, but if you want to grow as a therapist, if you want to grow as a person, you have to work to failure. You have to get to that point where something fails. Because in that moment, it's the moment we gain that extra strength. We gain extra knowledge. Oh, well that failed. So now I know to do this differently.

1 (28m 4s):
It's do it in a different way because if we don't, we're only ever going to stay in that comfort zone. So I think it's a great metaphor. If you want to grow muscle, you have to work that muscle to failure. If you want to grow as a person, you have to push yourself to the point of failure because it's in that moment that we grew up.

2 (28m 22s):
I love that metaphor that you just gave me so much value. That is amazing. Freddie, can you remember your very first client? The very first time you went into a session with someone who was asking you for help,

1 (28m 37s):
That I did this course and it wasn't a very good course. It was all about analysis. So hit now analysis. So back in the early nineties and looking back at that course, it was terrible. In fact, you know, I know I'm, I'm written books and stuff, but I've only ever done one course. I mean, it was a crappy course. The rest of the stuff I've made up as I've gone along and like be a bit like, you know, like you were saying earlier about therapist saying, can I use these things from Predix book? Of course you can. Because most of that stuff, we all stand on the shoulders of other people, you know, I've read stuff very excellent. And I've taken the ideas from Ericsson and ideas from someone else. And I, and in your mind, they come together and you can maybe push it on another level, but we all stand on those shoulders of other people.

1 (29m 21s):
None of this stuff comes out of nowhere. I don't believe it does. It's learned over the years and passed down. And so, yeah, so the course I did was terrible. Anyway, I'll get up, get back. And my son, Dean, who's now 48. He must've been about 22, 23 or something. So you went, Oh yeah. So you're a hypnotist now know you've been on the coast. And he said, so I said, yeah. He said, well, he said, I said, okay, well fine. Then he want to change. Yeah. So when he was boxing at the time and he wanted to lose two stone for this fight. And so I said, well, how would you need to do so can cut up potatoes and bread?

1 (30m 4s):
He said, I know that's, what's doing it. He said, we'll cut that out in my life. He said, I'll lose the weight. So anyway, at that time, because I'd been taught analysis, I laid him on his set. So you can imagine he's laying on his sets and doing basic behind a bit induction. And he honestly, Lori, he's doing this, he's laying a guy. Well, I throw it. It was all. And I just kept going. I don't like her. And he's just, he just smile on his face. It's like,

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This

1 (30m 38s):
Is a lot of rubbish. Anyway, long story short, I think they sit nicely. And then all I had, only until I had at that time was a version. So again, another version to potatoes and bread. So even married then, and I spoke to his wife the next day. I said, sir, when I let us give him saving our society. So anyway, I called her the next day. She said, he said he didn't want any fancy, any bread or potatoes. He said that he got a Chrome on his lip off. You know, it's just the thought of a breadcrumb on his lip. Anyway, long story short, he lost this to stone. He kept that off for ages. He had his fight, he won his fights and he's still on. He's been advertised.

1 (31m 18s):
He still would say, no. I mean, it's us. And what I was gonna, the reason I'm telling you that is because most clients, if you're only doing one, the therapy or hit the therapy without any phenomena, they're going to go out and they kind of go, that route felt really nice. I don't fancy a cigarette, but I must've just been ready to change because I haven't been hitting size. It must've just been either the right time. The weight's coming off me, but it must've just been this right time. But if they've had an experience of hypnosis, that's what I'm saying about phenomenon and using it can be something as simple as a finger lock. And for me now it's pretty simple. Button create an emotion within you. I can give you a suggestion. It's going to stick. It's no more complex than that.

1 (31m 60s):
Do this to me. Lori, put your arm out in front of you like this, but think about it. A beautiful granddaughter of yours, CFA still out of love. She goes for you feel for her. And as you do that already, I want you to notice the arms hanging all by itself. Imagine there's nothing you can do about that now. And when you realize there's nothing you can do about it, you can try and get it down. Probably cause even higher. I don't want you to pretend push as hard as you can, but there's even higher. Please do not pretend push even harder. Panic is even higher. There's something strange is going to happen. How do you try and get arm down higher? The other one's going to go push it even harder to find your own style and to lift. Now, put some effort and come on. You're strong, push it even harder to find the other one got even higher. Now, why are you hypnotized or trance?

1 (32m 40s):
What can't you get your arms down? Is that even your arm, you know, we're in the past. When you think are you had no willpower about food and your hammer go out and pick the cake up. You think where's my hand? No, it's not. Your hand is that even your hand was ever your hand picking the cake. No, no, but you hypnotized. What can you get your arms down? I'm going to click my fingers. Your arms going to drift down your eyes were closed for a split second. When they open and you have a smile on your face, you may even laugh out loud because you're going to feel so great. And you got to realize just how loved you are and how brilliant you are as a woman, as a therapist, as a mother, as a grandmother. Now get really as drifting down eyes, closing fiancee. Incredible.

0 (33m 26s):
No,

1 (33m 29s):
So yeah. How difficult is this? If I can, if I can evoke an emotion, it's quite a simple mix. I know you've got this beautiful granddaughter. I don't know how much you love her. If I get you thinking about that girl and all I can get you or can suggest something it's going to happen next. If you come to see me, let's say someone comes, see you for smoking. And you evoke that emotion about that child. And you get to, Oh, we say, let that remind you of why you're here and what you're doing you today is, you know, they're not going to go out smoking. That's just not because the understanding and the fact they'd been emphasized. And so you can do this. It's not complex. Anyone can do this. The only reason I wouldn't do it is because what if they put her on down or if it doesn't work, you know, for me, I'm not afraid of that.

1 (34m 17s):
Now, Melissa tears, couple of years ago at the UK hypnosis convention, she interviewed me after I did my presentation. And she said, how much of what you do do you think is down to confidence? You know? Cause that's how it appears. And I said, it's not, I don't consider it a big confidence. It's that? I'm not worried about what other people think I'm going to do my thing and I'm going to do it with my best intention. And I want that best my client. I'm going to do it in that respect. And if for any reason it doesn't work and you know what, you only get a hundred percent all the time. As long as I've done my best and I've wanted the best for that person, then that's all I can ask of myself.

1 (35m 1s):
And so it's not so much about being confident, even though that's how it probably comes across, because I do believe that everyone can do this. It's more about the fight they've provided on doing my best. And I want the best my client, then that's all I can ask of myself. You know, I'm a human being and yeah, and I make massive mistakes at times. But as I say, the people, nowhere in my bio, when you find a word saints, it's just not who I am, but I tried to do my best. I try and live my life, trying to be kind that's, that's sort of the bottom line, but we have this imposter monster.

1 (35m 41s):
We all have it. You know, extremely speaking about it. I still hear it. I'll bet it in the last couple of days, you know, and I have to bring myself out of that because we will have that voice. What's the point. Why are you bothering you? And I'll be thinking out of, you know, of quite a few times recently, why am I doing all this stuff? Why am I doing what I'm doing? I could, because I'm so old, I could be sitting in a rocking chair, just enjoying my, my old age. You know, I could quite easily do that, but I love this stuff and that's probably why I continue to do it. And the people we meet you, Victoria, there's so many great people, Jason and Nick, you know, Scott, Sandlin all of these wonderful people we meet when we do this, this work around, you know, I work with my son, Anthony, you know, it's, it's just a pleasure for me to do this.

1 (36m 33s):
And I keep having ideas as you know, and I think, well, let's try the thanks protocol because I have a dream about Tom Hanks. I think, wow, that's a fucking saw Tom Hanks out in my dream. I must've used that on other people.

2 (36m 47s):
I love that for anyone listening. I want to quickly interject. So anyone whose heart just sunk when you heard Freddy say, well, what if I just go sit in my rocking chair and stop doing this? I want you to think about that. The people there are people who you are ready to impact who you are going to have, be able to lead into these transformative experiences. And by you listening to that voice of the imposter monster, you are selling people short you're. You're making people miss out on the gift you have in the same way that if Freddy were to call it quits and go sit on that rocking chair, it would break all of our hearts. Wouldn't it.

1 (37m 25s):
But you know the thing that Victoria was saying, and you, you were saying this this morning in the podcast, I've heard tonight with Victoria about this. You know, you have an ability and one of the big things, and you will know it with the people you train and the people that contact you, who are hypnotherapists. They come into it in general because they want to help. Or they've been helped by hypnotherapy. And I think, you know, I'd love to better do this for other people. So they come in with it, with that mindset and then to try and create, this is like Victoria has, or you have, is become, it's not easy. You know, you suddenly find, you've got to let people know you exist and you've got to sell yourself and you've got a market and you've got to be as good at marketing.

1 (38m 9s):
As you are doing the therapy probably better than you are the therapy, because unless people know you're there. And so what I'll be saying to my students for years when they say this and they say, you know, I don't want to sell myself in England. We call it blowing our own trumpet and from kids who were told, you know, yeah, you're very good at telling everybody out, could you hide it? You know, keep quiet and then find out for themselves. Cause that's, we're brought up in there. You know, if you say, well, I'm really good at this. They say, Oh yes. You know, it's just calm down, stop blowing your own trumpet. And, and so we grew up with an understanding. We don't want to feel like selling ourselves, but what I say to my students, I want to say everyone, who's listening to this and whether it's true or not, because I'm not a linguistic linguist.

1 (38m 55s):
Yeah. Anyway, I'm not really good at languages. I actually mean so again, if you say I, you know, I say stuff, I don't know what I'm saying all the time, but the word sell originates from the Norwegian word Salia now I'm sure someone's going to prove me wrong on this. But this is how it's coming to me, which comes from the Norwegian where it's Salia, which means to serve. Now, if you have a product to a service, which you do have, if you're trying to be a therapist which can enhance someone's life and you don't sell it to that person, you've done them a disservice. You know, when I, when I, I used to have a sales company before I was a hypnotherapist, believe it or not, like I used to sell things and, and I saw the sales company.

1 (39m 43s):
And when I, I believed in what I was selling. And if I walked into somewhere, I would think to myself and not often say so that the customer as well, I say, look, I know this product can enhance your life. If I walk out here and I haven't sold it yet, I haven't explained to you how, how that can happen, how it can enhance your life. And I'll walk out without the sale. I've done you a disservice. It becomes my duty to let you know that I can help you. It becomes my duty to sell you this product. Because if you're walking around smoking, cause you haven't heard about me. If you're overweight and you're unhappy because you haven't heard about me.

1 (40m 24s):
If you're got a fear or an anxiety, that's ruining your life because you haven't heard about me, then I am doing you a disservice. So then it becomes art juicy. I'm talking about every hypnotherapist is listening. No matter whether you think, or I'm not that good or whatever, it might be. You have a duty to start marketing yourself because there is one, there's 1.3 billion people who smoke on this planet. 1.3 billion. They say that 80% of people who smoke are actively looking to quit as a billion clients who are dying from cigarette smoke because they don't know you exist.

1 (41m 7s):
It becomes our duty. As you Victoria talking about this morning, you know, she said, you know, she thought about quitting and she thought, you know, that voice go and get a job. Cannot help someone. I'm not a mom's voice. Why don't you get a job or whatever it might be. And then she don't know because I'm like, I love this. And I know I can help people. And I can either give up on this and going back and do some that you're not really wanting to do, or I can do something which is going to enhance people's lives. And it becomes our duty to do that. And once you, it turns it on its head, the word sell comes from the word, which meaning means to serve.

1 (41m 47s):
If you have a product or a service that's going to enhance someone's life and you don't let them know about it, or you get in front of them and you don't sell it to them, you've done that person at this service. So it becomes your GT. So that's how I look at it. It's my duty so that everyone knows where I am and what I can do as Victoria was saying about, you know, continue to learn and continue to move on. There's this wonderful book. I think it's by John on overdose, which publicity I was probably talking about. I'm trying to think of what the book was called, but a lot of people will know it, but there's a metaphor in there. I'm sure it's in this book. If it's not, then I'll say it somewhere else.

1 (42m 29s):
But it's one I use and it's one I love. And it's about this old wood cutter. I tell you, I suppose a bit like me is at the end. It is usefulness sell by day have gone. Anyway. So as, as most of us, when we, when we get a bit older, we start teaching people. This guy was teaching young lumberjacks or wood cars to cut trees. So they spent months learning about the different kinds of work, hard with the software, different kinds of trees. And while young guy who was probably in his peak, you know, maybe 1920 or whatever years old, he said, it's all very interesting. He said that, you know, I know I can cut trees. I am strong. I'm young.

1 (43m 9s):
I can cut trees. He said, so he challenges this old guy to contests of. We go out tomorrow at sunrise and we start cutting trees and see who's cutting the most trees at the end of the day. It's only about they go out into the woods and sun comes up and they start with access.com and Australia. So every now and again, the young guy looks over and the old boy is sitting on a, on a log hunched over a look and he feels a bit sorry for him. But he's thinking that he's times come, you know, I'm the young guy out there. Just keep cutting. So every other day, every now and again, he looks over and the old guy sitting on this log hunched over. So anyway comes into the day and the young guy says, look at all these locks off, you know, look at this big pile of logs.

1 (43m 54s):
He said, I'm sorry that, you know, your time has come and I'm just better than you. So he said, let me have a look on my part. So this the old boys paws half size again so far better. So he said, well, how did you do that? He said, I, every now and again, I looked over and you were hunched over a look. And this all boys said, yes, I was sharpening my ax. So it's a great metaphor for continue to learn, continue to improve, continue to stretch ourselves to failure. Let's push it a bit further. Let's see, you know, when I started doing it, I was seeing one person at a time, the way brain thinks, you know, if I could see one person, two people at the same time, this is back in the nineties, it wasn't being done.

1 (44m 40s):
You know, you can only have one client at a time. You can't possibly advertise to people, but my thinking is, well, let's try it. You know? And then if I could advertise to people, what if I flip? It ties 200 people. So in nine, 2006, I helped 5,000 people quit smoking in groups of 200 people at a time. You know? So it was, they would come in, I'd run. The same protocols are on now. But with a group, all I changed was if it was us working. So I would say Lori's unconscious mind, all the only thing that changed, but I'd say your unconscious mind. That was the only difference.

1 (45m 20s):
The protocol was exactly the same. Anyone can take my protocol and start running into the groups. And I say, why not? Because you're never going to run out the smokers.

2 (45m 30s):
I think this what his question is so powerful. You know, what, if I could hypnotize two people, what if I could hypnotize two people, 200 people. It, it makes me think of the first time you and I spoke. You hypnotized me in my car from halfway around the world.

1 (45m 47s):
That's right. Yeah. I can't remember. You said no eye contact. Cause you had a ton of allergy thing going on, you know, your eyes were swollen or something and, and, and you just put it out on that thing. The brain expansion group that we were in Iran and you were in a solid contact, you and I said, don't give me one, you know, 10 minutes together. And I'll see if I come out here and you said, well, I'll go and see a client. Are you free at six o'clock or six o'clock was like one o'clock in my, my time. So I said, well, I can make yourself. And then you said no way, I'm going to do it now. And give me two minutes. Then the next time I know you're in a car park and I'll hit you in your car with all the phenomenal guy and all that stuff.

2 (46m 31s):
When you were doing that to be ready to go like Freddie, you keep doing this,

1 (46m 37s):
But you know, so yeah. I mean, why don't you let go of your limitations once you pass that point of failure of worrying about failure and just say, I'm going to help this person. And if I fail doing it and I'm going to do it at my best and one of the quotes, I'm sure you've heard me say it before. It's a Shakespearean quote, one of my favorites, it's our doubts are traitors and they make us lose that, which we often should win by fearing to attempt our doubts are traitors. They make us lose that, which we off should win by fearing to attempt. How many times when we look back at our life, I think I've only just had the nerve to do it.

1 (47m 19s):
I had the nerve to ask that personnel. Well, if I just asked her out, you know, the time's gone and they're gone. No, you're never going to say it again and he's fuck it. Just done it. Now my son, my son being that he's, as I said, he's, he's the best man. Well, I've got, I've got four sons, but he's as good a man as I, I think he can be, he's been a great son as all of them are, but now he's, he's got his own business construction company, but he's also got into photography recently. So he's taken some great photographs and that's his sort of hobby and he's really good at it.

1 (47m 59s):
But for my birthday, which is in a week's time, he sent me a picture of me when I was 14 with this it's art. So I've got electric guitar. I'm 14 years old. I might post it because, you know, I think it's a great picture. And I was, I, I was thinking about posting and just saying, what dreams did you have at 14 that you threw the imposter monster you didn't achieve? You know, and I had this guitar and the reason I'm saying, so I had this guitar, it was given to me and there was a guy he ended up as my window cleaner, I believe. And I got like our name in Cina Jeffrey's, but he's a great guitarist. And he plays on the cruise ships and stuff. And when he's not doing that, he's cleaning windows.

1 (48m 41s):
And he ended up like by window cleaner. But when I was 14, he really wanted my kicks. I didn't really know how to amplify that they've given to me and this. So he said, why don't you try out as a singer in my band? And so I went along and I can sing churn and I went along, but I was so nervous. I was so shy at that point in my life. And I regret that. I regret not just taking that opportunity. And so that understanding how many dreams do we have that are never fulfilled because of the imposter monster that says, yeah, but what if you know, what if, what would they think? What was she thinking? What would he think? You know, what if she says no clear off, you know, when you ask her out and all those things that go through men's minds and people's minds, you know, it is just that limiting beliefs that going, I, I spoke to a guy who I trained actually.

1 (49m 34s):
And it was a seminar that my son Anthony was running on a thing called AI automatic imagination. So this guy was there and I was there just in the audience and we had a coffee together, you know, it's a coffee break. I'll say it wasn't. He said, John, I'm pretty good. Thanks. He said, but I'm still single. He said, no, I'd love to be in a relationship. So I said, well, what's stopping it. He said, well, I'll look at any point, you saw a woman who was not an ICER come on across the room. And he said, I looked at a woman like her. And I think, you know, I'll go across my salary and she'll, she'll say clear off or whatever else. And I'll be embarrassed. And then I'd have to walk all the way back over it feeling really bad. I said, none of that stuff has happened except in your head.

1 (50m 18s):
I said, you might just be the spot on person for it, but she's never going to know. And you'll never going to know because you've already made your mind up. You've had the whole conversation in your head, in a negative form rather than just going and say, hello. You know, I want a cup of coffee sometime. What's the worst thing that, and I can say no, and I've done that one night, you know, I've been on a single, I was a pub and there was a group of girls on this table. One of them was spectacular. So I went out, I said, I think it looks spectacular or whatever it was. I used it at the time. And I said, do you want to go out for lunch? Sometime, maybe tomorrow. She went, I'd love to. She said, but it's my head night. I'm getting married tomorrow.

1 (51m 3s):
But you know, if you don't ask, you're never going to know, but you know, I know things happen, but my attitude would be, if I, if when I was single, this was, if I saw a group of women now, I think, well, maybe three, my lightly one might be interesting. I would probably think I'm nuts, but you know, that's reasonable odds. So I can ask, I kind of start talking, but you know, because of that, I've known some great people purely because I've spoken to them where other people stand around and think you've got no chance. What's the point? You know, what if, or that, like you say, the imposter monster in our mind, stopping us from achieving what we want to achieve. I would say to everyone, listening to this, listen to the voice, the challenge that it's not even your voice, it won't be your voice.

1 (51m 49s):
And you can do things like we were talking about the other day, change it, Donald Duck's voice. See how effective that is what it's saying. You can't do something, just change it. And we can, we've got all these things because none of this exists outside of our skull. Does it? None of it. I want you to understand that you can say no, I choose to believe something else. It was never my belief. It was only suggested to me,

2 (52m 16s):
Freddie, what is something that you understand now about hypnosis that you didn't understand when you finished your training?

1 (52m 26s):
That's the door between conscious awareness and unconscious access. If you like to the unconscious abilities and skills that the ceremony of hypnosis, which is like, you know, sit in a chair, relax, close your eyes, take a few breaths. Listen to my voice, the ceremony, which people expect leads you to the portal. But for me, if you want to go through that portal, emotion opens that pool. You know, once you get people thinking about what's really important, you can do that today. I just got this, this somebody who came in and it's 15 minutes with me.

1 (53m 7s):
She said, there's not very many really women in the inhibitor therapy world. You know, most of the big names, if you like a male and she wanted to be doing some of the phenomenon that I saw, I just got to visualize herself, presenting doing some of these phenomena. That was a big enough emotional shift to put her into it. But if someone's coming to see me because they are doing something detrimental, they're smoking or doing drugs or drinking too much alcohol being rubbishy foods, this detrimental. So if I can evoke that feeling about their child and get them to understand how important they are to the people I love and getting to think about that person. And then in that moment gives a suggestion either for hypnosis or for change.

1 (53m 51s):
That's really as deep as you need to go to help someone change. So that's the big understanding for me this, if I was putting in a line and I did in my book, you know, if you want to have a size, someone create an emotion, give a suggestion. That's difficult as it is when, when I first started like everyone else, I was reading the words, I'm thinking, I've got to get these words, right? I've got to sit quietly. I've got to do no, all this stuff, the body language she's sitting like that. So I must sit like this. You know, I think about all the intricate language patterns, which we think we've got to know. You know, I did a, a presentation for Adam Mason in which you add contact now, because you are going to do, he runs a conference in that big London conference.

1 (54m 41s):
So Adam, great, man. Yeah. Your work does wonderful work. And he taught his beautiful hypnotherapy school. We should be running for years, very renowned and well-known, and he's now a doctor. He did a doctorate in self-hypnosis. So he's now got the Dr. Label. And he's a great man. But anyway, he said, years ago, he said to me, can you come down and do a presentation to my students? And so I said, yes. And someone asked that question, how important do you think language patterns home? I said, well, really interesting. Aren't they, you know, the predicates and the, all the other words that we use that to, to do this work. And it's really interesting. And I said, but if you really know what you're doing and you really got it in your mind, you can do this.

1 (55m 24s):
And I looked at a woman in the fourth row. She looked at me, I blinked or she blinked. I blinked. She blinked. I blinked. I slowed my blinking down. She slowed up and came down. I failed trance. And she went, I said a word. So where's the words. Where's the language. No, it was my intention. And I never wavered on it. My son answered. He's got to know me over the last 20 years. But when we first started working together and I'd start doing distance at gnosis he say, why do you do that in the first five minutes? What if it doesn't happen? You know, then we've lost the whole group.

1 (56m 5s):
You know why I do this? And why do that? If when we, the first day running the arrow technique, he would go out in the room. You say, don't say you won't feel any pain because what if it fails? Quite literally walk it walk out. Cause he was too embarrassed in case I've got egg on my face. Never, never actually happened. He's past that now. But yeah, either it's just who I am. I'm just going to do my utmost because if I can fascinate, I know fascinations akin to hypnosis. If I, if you're listening to me to the point where you're fascinate, but what I'm saying, you're in a light trance. And if I suggest, as you're listening to me that the, the imposter monster you can overcome and you can deal with it in a different way, chances are you're going to pick that suggestion up and that's, what's going to happen.

1 (56m 51s):
You're going to look at it in a different way. So the whole thing, when we first start out, it seems complex. I've got to learn these scripts and I'll just need this. What most students do? I just need one more script. Yeah. I just need one more induction and then I'll start now. I just, then I'll be confident that, that I never get more certification. One more certification, one more piece of paper. That means nothing in UK, you know, but I must do it. And otherwise, you know, I won't be to do this work honestly. And I'm saying it again because I mean, if someone wanted to be effective as a therapist, come and spend a day with me, I'll show you how to hit with ties and say someone out fear, pain and properly habitual behavior.

1 (57m 40s):
Yes. And I say to people, learn one, one induction, the Euro fire with you don't need 600 inductions. One that you're good at one that you feel comfortable with and use it use, you know, you can use two or three techniques. You don't need a whole box for the techniques you already done. Right?

2 (58m 5s):
This is so amazing. So I remember when I first read your book, I got it on audible. And I'm so glad I did because you read it yourself. So as I'm listening, I'm like Freddy is about to read a hypnosis protocol. I am just going to sit and I'm going to relax and I'm going to be hypnotized by Freddy Jaquin. And as I was listening to that book, I, it was fairly early in my hypnosis career. And I had had some remarkable trainings. I've trained under my command, Dell, Melissa tears, James trip, some amazing people. And when I heard your book, it was like this.

2 (58m 45s):
It was profoundly life changing because you simplified all these processes into something that is effective and works. And I really believe that a person who reads your book or takes a training from you is equipped to start taking action. Don't wait until you have one more thing in place start now.

1 (59m 6s):
Yeah. I mean, I'm not this guy today. I'd say it's probably a mechanic. I'll say to him, you don't have to have a piece of paper to go and help your wife with these techniques. You don't need a piece of paper to help someone out of pain. You know, you've already done. You don't even have to say sip. Gnosis, that's the joy of it with the arrow technique in particular, you know, because I want all doctors start using it, you know? And I'm in talks with doctors in the UK now, because if a doctor, and this is my thinking on this, if adults are at GP, you know what? I only have five or 10 minutes with the patient. They don't, they're really under pressure. They've got to get these people in and out. If they're giving that patient a maximum out of painkiller, they're giving them, they're still not touching their pain.

1 (59m 48s):
Why would you not in the five minutes you've got, say, let's just run this, try this. Because you know, it's going to take five minutes. And like I say to people, I'm not giving you pills or patients. This is purely words. Just your imagination. What's the worst thing that happened. It was, he had his nothing animals and they're back where they were. But what if, and that's the word I say, but what if I'll never understand what I'm bothered? Because it's just words. It's just your imagination, but it's so powerful. The imagination is so incredibly powerful. It's all we have really, you know, I spoke to a guy today from Finland and he's a manual migraines expert specialist.

1 (1h 0m 34s):
So he does this sort of cranio thing on people with migraine. And he said, I've found that a lot of my people that come and see me suffering from trauma, he said that there's an D. He said, I send them these also, as I was hitting the therapy, he said, so I send them to him and he has amazing results. I say, well, when you're doing your manual manipulation of their head, I said, just say to them, look while I'm doing this, imagine you're drifting up out of your body. Imagine you're drifting higher and higher. Imagine in your mind's eye, see a target. I said, why are you doing that stuff? I said, you could be doing this arrow technique. I said, if he does that in Finland where no one's doing it.

1 (1h 1m 14s):
I said, people will think you're some kind of guru because the results you'll get, am I using, have a friend here in this local town? She does. She calls herself an Alchemist. She mixes oils. Yeah. Aroma therapy and all kinds of walks. She's fantastic at what she does. And she does these massage for people. And I said to her, just run the ROI technique. If people are in pain, you're already doing the oils to try and out the pain. So they're already in a trance. Cause they looking for that little hole in the chair, you know, smelling the oils. You know, they're in a nice, relaxed state because it just run out. She's been running that heroin with people, not saying, I'm going to hypnotize.

1 (1h 1m 55s):
You just say this. This is my voice. While I'm doing this. And imagine you're drifting out of your body and these people go out without pain. Is it the oil? Is it on that? Sarge? Is it in cares? But for the client, this guy has been dealing with people with migraine for 26 years. And he's using the, our own himself. And he works. I said, well, why don't you have stops in this one? I'm not emphasis. You don't have to be a hypnotist. I want all doctors and nurses to use this because it's only words, it's only imagination. Why would you not try it for someone? That's my feelings on it.

2 (1h 2m 31s):
Absolutely. For people who are listening, I just want to interject right here. Cause I bet there's people, a lot of people who know you and are familiar with the error arrow will know what you're talking about. But for those who don't, how can people learn this amazing technique? You're talking about

1 (1h 2m 47s):
My book. We used to say as a separate product, which you can still buy it for. I think it's nine $5 or something. You can go and buy it, buy it. But we're now running an online, all our stuff's online. So you can get everything that I've ever taught. <inaudible> my son over fits. He's given everything in I've learned and taught over the last eight years. He's put on this membership site and it's $47 to join. So you can join it. And you, you know, you can download everything I've ever done. Learn it for $47. Really? If you want to binge on credit Jaquin for the next few months.

1 (1h 3m 27s):
But yeah, I think it's, and I want everyone to learn it. I want everyone to learn it. We've got an outro app coming out, which is really exciting for me. Cause it's going to, it's already out on Apple so you can get it on your iPhone. You can get it on your Android phone. It's a five, six minute app. So you download, it explains what you're going to do. Then you've got my voice. So you can do it analysis. So on your outer pain. Yep.

2 (1h 3m 53s):
I've used it myself. I used it when I had a migraine the other day I sat down and I turned that app on and I walked through it and it it's just, it's phenomenal. It's a phenomenal app

1 (1h 4m 4s):
Upgraded it, you know, because the first one we've put out pretty rapidly and recently I'll rerecord it. So the sound's better. They, you can move through it easily, you know, for the actual pages. And so I think even with the first one we had of the 470 people who scored it at the front and the ends, there was a 35% reduction in pain. When you think that, you know, most of the pills are not even touching that and this next one is going to be more so, so for me, that's like, like we were saying about the books and Victoria's book my book and your book, because you're going to have one saying got out on next that's they've got that out there, but you're touching people.

1 (1h 4m 47s):
You don't know, you're helping people. You don't know. And that's what I abstain. And it's going to, I want everyone to know how to do that. I'd love so many people just be using all around the world. We'll see what happens, but we're also, and this is like, we're also developing some goals for kids playing well, not just the case, but we're going to start with, so you know, a kid in pain, like say, I mean that procedure in a hospital and they are scared, you split your VR goals, they're in your own world running, going through the hour. I'm hoping that's going to be at some point. So there's lots of things going on. But the arrow technique is very simple technique for those who don't know about it, you can learn it from my book and go and practice it.

1 (1h 5m 31s):
Don't be afraid. Think it was just write it in the book. So I can't use it, learn it from our Jaquin hypnosis Academy website, download all that stuff. You can buy it as a, as a standalone product. I'm sure it's out there somewhere of me telling you that somewhere. So

2 (1h 5m 51s):
For, for people who are listening to this and maybe, and I have a fair amount of people who have maybe come to my weight loss program and they are so intrigued by the idea of hypnosis that now they want to train. And they've of many of these people have started training. So if someone listening to this podcast is brand new to hypnosis, why would your Academy be the very best investment that they can make? Well, tell me a little bit more about what's in there

1 (1h 6m 18s):
Apart from the fact that my son, Anthony and I run it,

2 (1h 6m 22s):
That's all I need. That's all I need to know.

1 (1h 6m 26s):
It's just that we've both been working hypnotherapists for the past 30 years. You know, it might be maybe me 27, Anthony, 24, 25 years something. So we've been at the coalface. I know everything we teach is what we use. It's not just where read it in a book and we're teaching it. Everything we teach is practical. If people can learn the techniques, they're very simple and not very wordy. There's so much stuff. And Anthony, my son is probably the most well read person. I know about hypnosis. He's he's read every book. There is he's but he's been like since she was a little boy, you know, he devours books, he just loves books.

1 (1h 7m 9s):
So, and he's done that with him. And I say, most knowledgeable person. I know the other person who might match him is Mike Mandell, but I answered he's very knowledgeable. And so if people want to learn about no sucks, they're fascinated by they can go and learn that. But what we do in our courses is we teach you the practical knowledge. And so you can be competent and confident and do this work and do it, do it within weeks. Not years, you can train with me, one-to-one on doing online. So, you know, you can go on my website, Freddy, jacqueline.com, you know, a book, a few sessions with me, tell me what you want to learn.

1 (1h 7m 50s):
And it will be my goal to teacher. But once we're out of lockdown, I'm assuming that adds and I'll be traveling again around the world, training people, and we've done it on like five continent works in Brazil, Australia, India have work people in Africa, America, obviously UK. So it's just, for me, it's been a great trip, great journey. And I've had my son alongside me and some of the places we've seen, some of the experiences you've had, they've been phenomenal. So from a point of view of another, I don't call it a job. What I say is I call it qualified in the early 1990s. And I'd never worked since, because I don't see it as a job.

1 (1h 8m 33s):
And, but yeah. So if people want to train me, I would say there, maybe that's the difference, but I'm not going to denigrate anyone else's work. Cause everyone's got their own thing. But that's what I like to think. They train with me. We know that when I got out of there competent and confident, because as we were saying earlier, so many people, I do these courses and we've had it on our courses where they come and say, I've done this course and done that course, but I just don't feel conference to staff. So at the very beginning of our training and you you've done some training in my presentation, I hit the ties, everyone as a group, the star so they can get in the best learning frame of mind so they can absorb the knowledge so they can access that knowledge easily.

1 (1h 9m 18s):
And at the end of the course, before everyone leaves, I'm going to hypnotize more as a group again, to give them ultimate confidence, to go and use these tools. And I can't imagine why any hypnotherapy training college or school would allow them cut that allow their students to golf. That course not feeling confident because that's what we do is hit with therapists and that we help people gain that confidence to silence the imposter monster. And I ran this thing. So I just speak to it. I don't expect you had time to do it yet, but although we have these negative voices in our heads all the time, you get to 30, 40, 50, or in my case, nearly 70, by the time you get to that age, you've also had some really powerful people in your life, mentors, people you've learned from people that, you know, inspired you, people that believed in you.

1 (1h 10m 13s):
So I have this thing already with this college of medicine thing I do on a Friday, Freddy's free Friday therapy at four, right? So, and I ran it last week and I was talking about the self-sabotage voice, but I had this dual thing. I'd ask everyone to try it. If you think about, I call it. So my war cabinet. But if you think about, let's say you had a problem, think about the people you've met in your life that you would like, that you think would help you with that. That would have some kind of sane helping you with that. And then what I do is I go into self-hypnosis and I ran it with this group the other day online and well, I'm telling you if you're out there and you want to experience this, you can close your eyes and do it.

1 (1h 10m 59s):
But imagine you're supposed to, I take a breath in and imagine you're walking down a flight of six steps, concrete steps that lead into a corridor. I think every step takes you deeper and deeper into that. Wonderful. Say a hypnosis. I can count if you like six, five, four, three, two, one, and now we're in a corridor. And as you walk along that corridor on the right hand side, there are two doors. There is two sets of doors and the second set of doors as you open them, they lead into a conference room in that conference room is conference table around that table. Are those people that have inspired you that are strong, that have loved you, that believed in you. People wise people, people who have been good in business, other people are just wise and they're around that table and take away the question that's been bugging you, or you want to have the answer to and put it on the table and ask for an answer and see what happens.

1 (1h 11m 56s):
And someone will step up and say, I think if you do this, this and this, that might work. And then someone else will say, I think, you know, if there's only a fear attached to this, you can be fearless and you can do it. And before you leave that room, you will have an answer to that question. There's all those people who have influenced you. All those voices are in your mind. They're there. You've learned from them. You spent time with them. And when you got balanced to just walk out of that room and just walk back up those six steps. And as I count up your eyes, open one, two, three, four, five, six, you're top of the steps, eyes open. And you'll find that answer in your mind might be an hour from now or a week from now. You suddenly realize that's what I need to do.

1 (1h 12m 38s):
So we've all got these people we can put around that table and ask the question. We don't just have to listen to those negative voices. We can say, no, I choose not to listen to that. It was only ever someone's opinion and probably someone who wasn't even worth listening to. Whereas I have got these empowering people, but I stick in this room. They're there. Some of them are date. Someone in a long day can be a granny, can be a grandfather, can be an uncle that loves you cared about your committed auntie that believed in you. You could put these people around that table and you can ask the question, whatever it is. That's probably the problem you've got and be determined that you don't want to leave that room until you have the definitive answer to the question.

1 (1h 13m 25s):
And then you've got the answer. You come back up and you'll find yourself just doing it. So that's a nice way of turning those voices or sounded like a maniac. Now the voices in my head, turning them into a positive rather than negative.

2 (1h 13m 40s):
I love that this is so valuable. I knew the instant. I decided I wanted to have a podcast. I knew that I wanted you on here because you are such a voice of wisdom in all this. And I feel like if someone were to just listen to five minutes of this, any start anywhere, listen to five minutes of what you're saying and actually apply it to their life. It would change their life beef. Is it out? Do you have time for one more question before?

1 (1h 14m 5s):
Yeah. I'm, I'm free.

2 (1h 14m 9s):
So many of the people that come to me, some them might want to work over zoom with clients, especially with everything that's going on in the world. We're recording this on May 27th towards the, hopefully the end of lockdown. And they're thinking about working over zoom, but they don't have this phenomenal room to sit in like you're in or this just the right light or the right microphone or they're, they're wanting to be really they're being perfectionistic. What would you say to that perfectionistic person who feels like they need to have everything just right to start?

1 (1h 14m 41s):
Well, I'm going to share some with everyone now I'm going to share. So I know people who think, Oh, it's pretty, he's got a fantastic office there. Now. He must be doing very well. And he's like a little person I'm actually maybe six foot, five, five foot something I'll show you. I'll show everyone on here. So this is going to shatter your allusions. Everyone that's watching this, but here's where I'm actually sitting. Okay, cool. It's a little dingy room in the back of my office and I'll pay you the wall behind me, green.

1 (1h 15m 21s):
And as you can see the size of it, if I move the camera that way you see there's a door there that way, you'll see there's a door there. So you can see that the idea and why I love soon is that I can be in space if I feel spaced out and be there. You know, if I want to be in America and San Francisco bridge, wherever that is. And the other thing is I can also use it for branding so I can put this behind me. And it's, it's doesn't cost you anything. Or I can be, as I said, a moment ago, my posh office, the joy is that we don't have to do it.

1 (1h 16m 2s):
We can do exactly the same work. It took me so long because of the imposter monster to get working online. We can't possibly do the same work. You know, you can't push it to the same effect. Are you going to ruin your reputation, working online and not getting results? That was the imposter monster talking. But once you do it and you realize that you can, and you're helping people today. Seriously, today I spoke to somebody while I was in England. Someone in Canada, someone in New Zealand, someone in Finland, I think it was another person in Canada. So it might've been two people from Canada. Yeah. So five people today and none of them from my little town and none of them would, I better get to or help without, without if I'd said, no, I'm not going to do this because I have to see people one-to-one to get resolved.

1 (1h 16m 51s):
Let go of those limitations, recognize for what they are. Our doubts are traitors. And I make us lose that, which we off should win by fearing to attempt just to have a go, you know, you're loved on loved and without I've got sons that love me, grandchildren love me, woman that loves me. I can go on and 10 to anything and fail at it because ultimately that's their, Love's not going to change. That's how I look at this. You know, they're going to, if you have a handful of people in your life that care about you, whether you got $2 or $2 million, and those people are going to be in your life, whatever happens, then you can go out and try stuff.

1 (1h 17m 37s):
That's my feelings on that. You know? Cause then you know, you still going to be loved and it's becomes your duty. Everyone that's watching. This is doing Emma therapy at the moment. It's not working online or not telling people ass. They're not letting people know they can do what they do. They're doing those people, a disservice, there are millions. And now we're going to billions of people that need the therapy and need our help. That men who people aren't going to deal with it in England. If you want a mental health care, it takes like a nine months to get an appoint. You know, you've got to suffer for nine months when we can work on online and we can help people online.

1 (1h 18m 22s):
You know, things were, I always say, we work with neurosis, not psychosis, but all those things, you know, anxiety, stress, fear, irrational, fear, and anxiety, panic attacks, habitual behaviors, including cocaine, cannabis, drinking, eating, smoking, cigarettes, vaping, all of those people, we can help and weight loss. You know, we can help people achieve what they want to achieve. And all I would say to everyone that's inhibit therapy. I think all we can do, and I'm not saying, cause none of us are perfect. I'm a million miles from perfect. But I think we should all be striving to be the best we can be.

1 (1h 19m 3s):
So if we're going to say to people, I can help you lose weight. How can I help you achieve your physical goals? I'm not saying that you have to be absolutely perfect yourself, but if you are unhappy with the way, with your own way, then you should be addressing it because there's a lack of credibility. If I'm sitting in this chair five stone overweight, and I'm saying to you, yes, I can help you lose weight. There's a lack of credibility. If I'm sitting here with an ashtray for the dog gains cough and my heart up, I'll say I can help you quit smoking. And then don't get me wrong. If you're happy, five staff away, then you can legitimately sit in a therapy chair so I can help you lose weight. But if you're not happy that the way you are, then you shouldn't really be saying to people, how can I help you achieve what you want in your life?

1 (1h 19m 50s):
Not Victoria was saying, you know, I'm saying to all these people, you can have abundance in your life. And today she was almost broke. You know, at that point in time too, she recognize, well, I've got this stuff at myself, I've got to live it myself. And she does. And that's why I put on that little poster there that you and Victoria, you are two women that walk the talk. You know, you're not just talking, you're not just teaching it, you're living. And that's the difference. And I always suggest to everyone that's doing this work. We can, we are doing brilliant work. W people can learn this in a very short period of time. Then I have seven years of schooling to learn, to be effective this, but we do need, we owe it to ourselves and our clients to strive to be the best we can be.

1 (1h 20m 37s):
And as I said to you in my bio, you will not find the word saying, I mess up horrendously. At times I buy access. I'm a man. And you can almost swap that word, man, for F up because that's just the way those guys together in most cases. But you know, we can try and do everything with kindness and love. That's why I say do our best there's kindness. We can be and be the best we can be. That's all we can ask ourselves.

2 (1h 21m 11s):
Thank you so much, Freddie. I am so grateful for you being here today. I've been really looking forward to this and I hope that everyone listens listening will look you up and will join your Academy. I think that that is a phenomenal deal. That's so incredibly generous of you.

1 (1h 21m 27s):
We'll be running some training together in July that, you know, we can run some great techniques. So one of them is going to be thing that no one else has done, et cetera. And I rejuvenation therapy. How to reach you by ourselves, how to get back to feeling good and being good and empowering each other, empowering our clients, empowering ourselves. Yeah. Some of these techniques we have, and we're also going to be talking about how to put an end to your imposter monster. I believe

2 (1h 21m 60s):
That's right. Were you and I are even going to do a dual induction to the hypnosis session that lets them, let them turn off that imposter monster voice and start taking action and start getting moving forward to their goals.

1 (1h 22m 16s):
Maybe it's a bit over the top. I actually leave people my own voice. I place a voice in their head. I say, when you go to the fridge or the cupboard prom today, whenever you're thinking about eating, you're going to hear me and you're walking in your head going, why are you about to eat? Is it because you're bored, emotional or hungry? And if the ask goes back on board or emotional, so she will shut the door and do something else. So I actually put my voice in people's heads and I don't know why we wouldn't, you know, if it's a positive voice, I'll say, as people from today, if you, if you ever doubt yourself, it will be a spine staying right next to whispering in your ear. You know, you're incredible. You can do this.

1 (1h 22m 56s):
Yes. And the same for therapists, we do that. We have the ability to get people thinking differently. And it's just the, and if one made to do it, one woman can do it. Anyone can do it. People look at you and I go, well, yeah, but Laurie, she can do this. And she's built this business in three years, you know? But the joy of what people now have, which they didn't have before you was, they have you to model, you know, before four I've did my hypnotherapy in my way. Now people can model everything I do. And it's a model. What I do. I don't get into the same mindset. They can replicate what I do.

1 (1h 23m 37s):
I don't care who they are. You don't have to shave your head bald. Although it would be quite nice to have an army of bald hypnotherapists following me. But you know, you can replicate what I do by doing the same, the same words, taking the same attitude, having the same mindset, you know, and we've spoken about this before. What do I say to my students? Is this, when you step up to do your work, just run this little loop in your head. I care about you. And I want you to be well. Not even if you, if it's appropriate, say it. I've said to my clients, so caravan and I want you to be well, I'm gonna do my utmost to make that happen. But if you don't feel it's appropriate, you should at least run it and keep it in your heart.

1 (1h 24m 22s):
Because I think that makes a big difference. I've seen people that say to me, Freddy, you know, if the CEO making a lot of money, it looks really good. Teach me the words and the music. I'll just go and do this and I'll want to learn more money. And I was saying, what if you all you're thinking about when you've got that person in the chair is the money you're going to learn. You're not going to be successful. I don't care what you're saying because in hypnosis, even if you can force someone in a conscious state, when someone's in the trance, all of their senses are heightened and I will pick up whether you're there because you care or whether you just there, because it's your job. And you just want to ask more money. And I believe that. So run that key day in your heart. I care about you.

1 (1h 25m 2s):
I want you to be well. And if you are going to do some phenomena, which we're talking about the originally, which I'd ask everyone to try and do and not try, just do it, have some fun. But when I step up, if it's a street situation or an impromptu situation, someone's can you hear baptize me, Freddy, this is what the loop I run in my mind. I'm a great hypnotist. You're a great subject. You are going to be hypnotized. And I keep that in my mind. There's no doubt because then I'm going to have to pick up any doubt in their mind either. If you just hold that this is going to happen. There's no doubt in my mind. And that's makes the difference. Those little voices that we have in our head.

1 (1h 25m 45s):
There's little loops that we can run positive loops for ourselves in the same way as we can annihilate and disintegrate those imposter monsters. You have, we have the power. Absolutely. I tell people two things. Can't occupy the same space at the same time. So every

2 (1h 26m 4s):
Time you hear that imposter monster voice, rather than trying to logic your way and tell it to be quiet, just start telling yourself I'm a phenomenal hipness hypnotist. And this person is a phenomenal subject. You fill your head with positive. Self-talk. Even if you have to imagine, you know, Freddie in that other ear, it will silence that imposter monster.

1 (1h 26m 26s):
I mean, you, you, you know that, thanks protocol. We shipped our child. If you've got time, I'll tell you quickly, I'll send earlier. I had this dream about Tom Hanks. I was hypnotizing Tom Hanks. I don't know why I was hypnotizing. Your is hypnotizing with this induction. That's my note is it doesn't, it doesn't exist. It does now, but it didn't exist. That point I woke up in the morning, I think you're right. So I just put it on my Facebook and I had a dream baptized during this induction. And I said, if you're interested in learning and induction, just, but I'm no put Tom Hanks in the, in the box, the comment box. Well, if people were going Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks, Tom access, I'll just put these initial T Hanks, which spells things.

1 (1h 27m 10s):
And so, because this that's how it comes about. So because this is all this whole thing is about self appreciation about self-worth that whole thanks protocol. It just made absolute sense to call it the thanks protocol. So when I went to India last year and my son and I at the antenna, we always have these competitions, wherever we go in the world, we try. So you can learn as much to the language as possible. We have this little competition between spits Brazil is Portuguese, but it's India like Hindi. And he'd been learning Hindi secretly without telling me so you can get headstart. So anyway, so I found out about this.

1 (1h 27m 51s):
So I spoke to someone, I was telling him, so a friend of Anthony and I said, now he's been learning hanger. He's got a headstart. So this guy said, well, you don't need to know Hindi. In fact, in India, there are 650 different languages. Not even dialects fit 650 different languages. He said, all you need is the greeting, which is now mistake, which means. And I said, well, what does it mean? He said, it means I recognize the God within you, which I thought was a great, great, I'm not a religious person. So I thought if I just change one letter, it becomes all recognize the good within you. So now, so the thanks protocol is this. You breathe in as you breathe out or what you breathe in, breathe out.

1 (1h 28m 33s):
You say these words to yourself, and you can say to yourself, you can do it as a self hypnosis thing. And I'm going to show you in a moment how you do it with your client, but you get, maybe get a group of people breathing together. So now we're all breathing together. And as you breathe in, you say these words, I recognize the good within you. Thank you. I care about you. I want you to be well. So you can use on your own self. So if you have got an imposter monster going on, just remember the thanks protocol aimed at yourself. I recognize the good within you. Thank you. I care about you. I want you to be well.

1 (1h 29m 14s):
If you're working with a client, you can aim it at them. You can get them saying it, but you can aim it outwardly. Even if it's on your own head, know, I recognize the good within you. Thank you. I care about you. I want you to be well. So when we did this practice in India, I said to these guys who are doing the practice, you know, we were teaching them. I said, normally, because in a practice situation, you're so intent on the words, why we're going to do this technique. I'm going to read these words. I said, before you even start the technique, look at each other for a moment and just get, take the time to recognize the good within them, because we don't do it. We rarely take the time out to actually look at someone and recognize the good within them.

1 (1h 29m 57s):
There were men in that room crying, sobbing, because it's just to have someone, you know, thinking out of you, feeling it, of you and feeling of someone else. It's just an immense thing. And when we're in a therapy situation, I think if we can remind ourselves that we're human and pay less attention to the technique and the protocols, and more to just communicating as human beings, we get a better result. So just a little thing, the thanks protocol, write for yourself, see what happens.

2 (1h 30m 33s):
It's a beautiful, so simple and so effective. I think if people did that every day, it would change their life.

1 (1h 30m 40s):
I do when I wake up in the morning, unless I'm close on listening to you and Victoria as I was this morning, but I'll normally just lay in bed. And that moment before when I'm awake, but my body is still kind of asleep, you know? So I'm sort of conscious, but my body's still saying I don't want to wake up yet. And then I'll get into the breathing. And I run that little loop in my mind and I recognize the good within you. I care about you. I thank you. I care about you. I want you to be well, I just want it because then your oxygen oxygenating your blood stream by the breathing. And you're also giving yourself some good vibes. So try it. It's only words it's just imagination.

2 (1h 31m 22s):
Great. Thank you so much. This has been an amazing experience and I am so grateful to you,

1 (1h 31m 27s):
But the great speakers as always. So if people are interested in our course, I will look, I think it's going to be in your website, my website, and we're going to be trying to, and I'm looking forward to that. Cause that's going to be the new dream team, Fred and ginger Shaw.

2 (1h 31m 45s):
I talked about that because I I'm a natural redhead. So we said, we're, we're Fred and ginger. I'm honored. I'm so excited for our training and that's going to be a virtual training. So you can join from anywhere in the world and Freddie, because he so generous has just halved the price of it. So it's going to be incredibly affordable for everyone that wants to join. We want as many people to experience as possible message out and help people change. Let's see what happens if nothing else. Absolutely. And I'll put all those links below the podcast, wherever you're watching or listening.

2 (1h 32m 27s):
So you can find us easily and start changing lives. Yes. Thank you, Freddy. And remember, keep sharpening your ax. Yes. Keep sharpening your ax.

0 (1h 32m 40s):
I told you it was an amazing interview. I hope you love that as much as I did, if you're a person who like I used to be is a little bit nervous about using phenomenon because you think what if it doesn't work, but you want to have the courage to try it so that you can use it as a convincer during your hypnosis sessions. The training that Freddie and I are doing coming up July 4th and fifth, 2020, is going to give you everything you need to start practicing and making a difference. Plus the courage and the knowledge you need to get out of your comfort zone and try it with confidence. This virtual training is going to be particularly life-changing because Freddie and I have designed it to be almost a family-like experience where you'll get to bond with Freddie and I, as well as other people from all around the world who are just like you and learning how to make a difference with their hypnosis skills.

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Find links to join this training below the [email protected] forward slash podcast. I'm so grateful. You've listened all the way to the end. What is one tiny action step you'll take now based on an aha moment you got during the podcast, maybe that life changing action step is to come accept the gift I have for [email protected]. Head there right now to get your powerful, hypnosis audio, the answer room that lets you make important decisions and get crystal clear about your next step forward on this path of purpose in your one.

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Great and precious life.

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